Ubuntu 5.10 'Breezy' Released

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Ubuntu 5.10, otherwise known as “Breezy” has been released. Read the release notesdownload it and get some of that Linux goodness. Ubuntu really is Linux for Human beings.

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Comment from Martin Bekkelund on 2005-10-13 13:27

Actually, the official name is “Breezy Badger”. Anyway, I agree that it’s one of the most user friendly distributions.

Comment from Charl van Niekerk on 2005-10-13 17:57

Extremely good distro for end users, but for more technical-minded people I don’t really think it’s that great. I still need to figure out where the traceroute command is hiding. :)

Comment from Arve on 2005-10-13 18:20

Charl:

$ sudo apt-get install traceroute

Did that help?

Comment from Charl van Niekerk on 2005-10-18 11:31

Oh my goodness, so my suspicions were right… It isn’t even installed by default! Makes no sense to me. But thanks anyway; I should spend more time hacking that distro. :)

Comment from Arve on 2005-10-18 11:49

This is the thing about “for human beings”. traceroute, or even ping is power user features people usually won’t need. Which is great for the newbie — he or she doesn’t get a lot of incomprehensible stuff, while the power users are still able to install it if they please.

If Ubuntu, or other Debian-based distributions have a weakness, it’s rather the failure to install stuff from multiverse, universe or even non-free: People do want MP3 playback. Yes, Ogg and similar are free — but that doesn’t help much when their portable audio player only understands MP3 and AAC or WMA.

Comment from Charl van Niekerk on 2005-10-19 13:32

I guess you’re right; traceroute is a power user tool. However, it is highly likely that somebody will want to use it on a machine some time or the other; for example, if somebody calls tech support and complains about connection trouble it is not so uncommon to ask the person to do a traceroute to somewhere (even if it’s necessary to give the person step-by-step instructions). The traceroute command just feels so “standard” to me that personally I feel it should be included by default. The ping command is included by default after all, and these things don’t really clutter the user’s interface much because it’s just one of the many tools in the /bin directory which most end users won’t really bother browsing anyway.

I think more and more distro’s, like SuSE, are being loaded with out-of-the-box MP3 support luckily; yeah, it will put many users off if support for that isn’t present. But anyway, (in my opinion) MP3 should die just as fast as, ehm, tag soup. :)

Comment from Anonymous on 2006-02-22 13:52

Came across this article and thought I’d chip in: “tracepath” is there to be used instead of “traceroute” in the default install…

DESCRIPTION
It traces path to destination discovering MTU along this path. It uses
UDP port port or some random port. It is similar to traceroute, only
does not not require superuser privileges and has no fancy options.

Also it seems odd that someone didn’t proofread the man page for the util…

Comment from jaja23 on 2006-03-10 11:03

Thanks for the info. It is so strange not to install traceroute. When i typed traceroute in terminal.. unknown.. I thought i mistake spelling. i open some dictionary in web browser.. oohh what a hassle…

regards

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